"Yeah!! There was knives and guns and all kinds of stuff! And we had to be careful 'cuz the rats were making people sick when they bit them!" He illustrates this fact by chomping the air with his teeth. "I didn't know rats were poison; had poison, so be careful around rats. Rats are bad."

Bad, bad news, those rats.

"But you're safe here, don't worry. And the garden's safe, too! There's a big place there if you go on the lift; it takes you to the place where there's lots of bugs. Like bees and butterflies."